Behind the Scenes

Behind the Scenes July 1, 2024

 

Baird artifacts
Twenty-first century re-creations of the golden plates, the Liahona, the Urim and Thummim, the sword of Laban, and the breastplate, made by David A. Baird, who also created the plates used in the Interpreter Foundation’s “Witnesses” film, which is now available on DVD and via streaming, as well as in the “Undaunted” docudrama and the associated short-feature videos.

You might enjoy this seven-minute video:  “Behind The Scenes | The Witnesses of the Book of Mormon.”  It provides background for Episode 5 of the video series “A Marvelous Work”:  “Who Actually Saw the Gold Plates? | A Marvelous Work Episode 5”

On a closely related note:  “Interpreter Radio Show — June 23, 2024”

For the 23 June 2024 episode of the Interpreter Radio Show, the hosts were Steve Densley and John Thompson. They discuss Come, Follow Me Book of Mormon lesson 29 and, with Executive Producer and Director James Dalyrymple and Associate Producer Jonathan Farrell, “Who Actually Saw the Gold Plates?,” Episode 5 of A Marvelous Work from Scripture Central.

Having been edited to remove commercial breaks, their conversation is now available to you at your convenience and at no charge.  The “Book of Mormon in Context” portion of this show, for the Come, Follow Me Book of Mormon lesson 29, will also be posted separately on Tuesday, July 9.

The Interpreter Radio Show can be heard each week on Sunday evenings from 7 to 9 PM (MDT), on K-TALK, AM 1640.  Or you can listen live on the Internet at ktalkmedia.com.

Paul Wuthrich carrying considerable weight
Paul Wuthrich as Joseph Smith,” running through the woods and carrying the golden plates of the Book of Mormon under his arm, while trying to evade local money diggers who want to wrestle the plates from him.  (Still photograph from the set of the Interpreter Foundation’s Witnesses film project, courtesy of James Jordan)

I’ve just come across this criticism again.  So it’s time, again, to post a response to it:

Later estimates of the weight of the gold plates of the Book of Mormon (by those who had briefly held them, such as the official witness Martin Harris and the unofficial witness William Smith) put that weight at somewhere in the range of forty to sixty pounds.  Some critics, accordingly, have contended that Joseph Smith could not have carried them for any significant distance, let alone run with them through the woods as he claimed to have done.  The plates — if they actually existed and if they weighed as much as the witnesses say they did — were simply too heavy.  Thus, these critics argue, at least that portion of his story must be fraudulent.

With that argument in mind, I call your attention to a scene near the beginning of the Interpreter Foundation’s 2021 film Witnesses that depicts Joseph Smith, played by Paul Wuthrich (who was recently featured as Elder Seibold in T. C. Christensen’s highly successful movie Escape from Germany and who reprises his role as Joseph Smith in the forthcoming Interpreter Foundation film Six Days in August), being chased by money diggers while he’s carrying the plates.

I was not present on the outdoor “set” for that day’s filming, but here’s some background on the scene that is directly relevant to the critics’ argument.  It’s based on communication with Russell Richins and James G. Jordan, who were, respectively, the producer and associate producer of Witnesses:

The metallurgist and experienced metalworker Dave Baird had created two prop sets of plates based on his own careful research.  Somewhat amusingly, one set came to be called the “non-hero set.”  They weighed somewhere between thirty (30) and thirty-five (35) pounds.  We’re more certain of the weight of the other set — unsurprisingly labeled the “hero set” — because Russell Richins weighed them himself.  They came in at forty-five (45) pounds.  In other words, at roughly the weight of the historical plates themselves.

Filming “Joseph Smith” with the plates, and running from and interacting with the attackers, took a considerable amount of time.  Knowing that the scene would require several hours, Paul Wuthrich was presented with the option of going with something lighter as a prop.

During the relevant filming day, the two sets were switched out at various times.  Sometimes the secondary or “non-hero” prop was used, and sometimes the “hero set.” But Paul often opted for the heavier set, knowing that he would run differently with the lighter set.  “At all times,” comments Russell Richins, “when you see Paul Wuthrich running or using the plates in the scenes, he is using one of these two sets. Bottom line, Paul was in very similar circumstances that Joseph Smith faced except for this one exception – – Paul Wuthrich did it over and over and over again throughout the day.  Yes, he was exhausted, but he did it.  A whole crew witnessed it.”

Those who have not been involved with filming of this sort would, I think, be astonished at how many takes and re-takes need to be done for even relatively simple indoor scenes.  Paul Wuthrich ran down the hill repeatedly, carrying the plates, jumping over rocks and logs, trying to avoid low branches.  He did it many times, for different takes, so that filming could be done from a variety of angles and until the director and the cameramen felt that they had it “right.”  He had to run down the hill with the plates, then climb up the hill once more with the plates, then run down the hill, then climb up the hill again.

I like Russell Richins’s summary statement:

Whether they want to accept it or not, people are going to have to face the fact that Joseph Smith, used to day labor and a very fit individual known for his strength, was fighting for his and the plates’ safety, perhaps even his life.  Additionally, this claim would have been quite achievable for many young men of his time. Even Martin Harris lifted the plates, as did eight other rural Americans.  People must remember that Martin Harris was older, but a farmer used to working physically.  This was very common.  Another interesting tidbit is that Annie Passman, about 16 years of age and playing Joseph Smith’s sister Katherine, lifted the hero, 45 pound, set of plates from the floor to the table throughout the entire day as we ran that scene many, many times while filming.  Was it tiring?  Yes.  Was it doable?  I think we have proven that clearly, in both cases.

And we’re not even invoking supernatural or divine aid, which, if it was present, would surely alter the equation.

Posted from Newport Beach, California

 

 

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